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Posted September 26th, 2007 by Sylvia S Tognetti and filed in Ignorance of Ignorance, The Lomborg

In a previous post Order Serpina over the counter, about The Lomborg, in followup to a previous one, I had a bit of a disagreement with Michael Tobis, over whether Lomborg is just adhering to the principles and presumptions of conventional economics, and whether what he believes, or at least says he believes, is wrong - coherently or stupidly. Buy Serpina online cod, While I fully agree with Tobis that values are embedded in scientific methods, and that there are limitations on cost-benefit analysis (CBA), online buy Serpina without a prescription, Australia, uk, us, usa, my point was that Lomborg is misusing CBA. To which also I added: "I hope we will hear from some environmental economists on this" - and also get statements from those experts listed as signing off on his "Copenhagen Consensus." So far, Serpina trusted pharmacy reviews, Where can i find Serpina online, no word that I know of from the latter, but Sir Partha Dasgupta - a well-known and respected environmental economist, buy no prescription Serpina online, Buy cheap Serpina no rx, backs up my point in a a book review published in Nature - the key quote:

Economics helps us to realize what we are able to say about matters that will reveal themselves only in the distant future. Simultaneously, online buying Serpina hcl, Ordering Serpina online, it helps us to realize the limits of what we are able to say. That, buy Serpina no prescription, Kjøpe Serpina på nett, köpa Serpina online, too, is worth knowing, buy Serpina without prescription, Order Serpina from mexican pharmacy, for limits on what we are able to say are not a reason for inaction. Lomborg’s seemingly persuasive economic calculations are a case of muddled concreteness.

I don't have access to the full article but here is a link round up to blogs on which it has been extensively excerpted and commented on:

ResilienceScience/Garry Peterson, Partha Dasgupta on Lomborg's muddled concreteness

Economists View/Mark Thoma, "If The Uncertainties Are Not Small, Standard Cost–Benefit Analysis As Applied To The Economics Of Climate Change Becomes Incoherent"

Also linked to and commented on by Brad de Long, and by Felix Salmon at the Porfolio magazine blog, who rearticulates the argument in plain english, Megan McArdle/The Atlantic, and James Hrynyshyn/Island of Doubt, order Serpina over the counter. Unrelated to Dasgupta's review is one by Tyler Cowen/Marginal Revolution, Serpina samples, Serpina price, coupon, and this one by a law professor Jonathan Adler in the National Review who, though generally favorable to the book, where can i buy cheapest Serpina online, Where can i order Serpina without prescription, seems to agree with critics on a crucial point: that Lomborg "understates the degree of uncertainty inherent in climate-change policy"  and that this "counsel[s] against pretending cost-benefit analyses can be conducted with any degree of precision."  

Other noteworthy posts, not necessarily focusing on flawed application of economics, buying Serpina online over the counter, Buy Serpina from mexico, Climate Progress, Richard Littlemore/DeSmog, purchase Serpina online, Purchase Serpina online no prescription, and Chris Mooney @DeSmog. Then there is this review by ecologist Tim Flannery in the Washington Post who, purchase Serpina, Serpina from canadian pharmacy, given Lomborg's assertion that the Stern report was not peer reviewed, wonders whether Lomborg's book was, buy Serpina without a prescription. Real brand Serpina online, It is being done now....

It is important to keep hammering away at this not so much to beat up on a dead horse as to take advantage of the opportunity to clarify what is a common misunderstanding and misleading misuse of economics in the policy arena, on both sides, where to buy Serpina, Buy Serpina from canada, regardless of whether those doing so have good intentions. Even more productive for policy purposes would be to focus on finding agreement on what the trade-offs actually are, Serpina for sale, Rx free Serpina, and the range of possible outcomes that Lomborg conveniently ignores by using point estimates in the Mythical Middle.

Lastly, now that I am back, buy Serpina online no prescription, Fast shipping Serpina, I watched the Colbert clip again and as always, he manages to articulate complex issues more concisely than anyone, order Serpina from United States pharmacy. Japan, craiglist, ebay, overseas, paypal, After Lomborg dodges the question of how often  the expected 4.7 rise in temperature happens (if you accept the middle figure from a wider range of possible outcomes), Colbert asks a follow-up: "How can we say it won't be a problem if it has never happened?"

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Posted September 12th, 2007 by Sylvia S Tognetti and filed in Category 5 Spin, The Lomborg

Order Cymbalta over the counter, I had access to a high speed connection today so, in follow-up to the last post, here is the video clip of Stephen Colbert nailing The Lomborg:

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Posted September 11th, 2007 by Sylvia S Tognetti and filed in Category 5 Spin, Civics 101, The Lomborg

Order Lexapro over the counter, I'm blogging from a location where I can't get Comedy Central, and only have a dial-up connection, so I haven't been able to watch Stephen Colbert put The Lomborg in his place yet - but see David Roberts post, or go straight to Comedy Central. Lexapro from canadian pharmacy, I may have more comments after I see it, in follow-up to this previous post, rx free Lexapro. Lexapro over the counter, In related news that I can read, Michael Tobis has comments on a New York Times article that ponders whether Lomborg should be taken seriously, buy cheap Lexapro no rx. Australia, uk, us, usa, No. While it is news to me that he advocates a carbon tax, buy generic Lexapro, Lexapro for sale, limiting coastal development and expanding wetlands, those aren't the reasons he has been given a megaphone, Lexapro from canadian pharmacy. Even supposing he were intellectually serious and honest, and has a few of his lines right, if he doesn't understand the complexity, why is he getting the attention, order Lexapro over the counter. Lexapro over the counter, For the moment, I'm not going to go there.

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Posted August 29th, 2007 by Sylvia S Tognetti and filed in Category 5 Spin, The Lomborg

Order Acular over the counter, Call me a skeptic - of anyone trying to claim the Middle Ground, right or left, journalist or politician. The extreme and illustrative case is what I now call The Lomborg which is essentially a variation of The Luntz, the end result of which is to drive book sales - or other forms of fame and fortune - though, Acular samples, as explained here, Order Acular online overnight delivery no prescription, I'm not convinced that it will still work for winning elections - sometimes the rules of the game can be changed.

I have not read Lomborg's new book, Cool It (or the last one) - in this case, the narrative or "frame" speaks for itself, order Acular no prescription. According to a review in Salon by Eban Goodstein, Purchase Acular, without offering any justification, and ignoring the potential range of variability and uncertainty, Lomborg prefers the "moderate" IPCC scenario, ordering Acular online, and, Real brand Acular online, in an interview by Kevin Berger, says he is just trying to claim the Middle Ground. Paraphrasing: "Left wingers say yada yada, where can i order Acular without prescription, right wingers say yada yada, Buy no prescription Acular online, science [cherry-picked and taken out of context] says whatever supports my argument..." As director of the Copenhagen Consensus Center Lomborg is in the business of manufacturing consensus.

Not that I deny the fact that policy often requires some sort of a consensus and compromise but first you have to be clear about the trade-offs, about which Lomborg is clearly clueless even though tradeoffs form the core of his argument (see Goodstein). Otherwise, where can i find Acular online, "consensus" is just a cover up for unresolved conflicts, Acular from canadian pharmacy, and a way to position oneself above the fray, or in that narrow space in which cherry-picked conflicting views overlap - supposedly. Note also, The Luntz and The Lomborg reinforce each other - Luntz also now preaches consensus and labels those who advocate a change as hysterical, order Acular over the counter. Lomborg uses the label doomsayers, rx free Acular, and says their argument is one that says, Acular trusted pharmacy reviews, "Hey, I'm much more important than everything else." It must be lucrative.

To Lomborg's credit, he does advocate public investments in clean energy technologies, australia, uk, us, usa. Maybe that will make it harder for Inhofe to continue calling global warming a great hoax, Buying Acular online over the counter, or maybe Inhofe will just make Lomborg look reasonable. Meanwhile, Lomborg congratulates Gore for "getting the issue on the agenda and taking it away from the people who say it's a hoax" in the same breath in which he says Gore is exaggerating and is an alarmist, buy Acular without a prescription. But Lomborg steers clear of supporting a cap or any other form of financial incentive that would create a demand for clean technologies, Buy Acular online no prescription, by raising the price of carbon emissions.There is indeed a trade-off here - his book sales come at the expense of the ability to respond to this dire threat, by undermining integrity in public discourse, as well as public trust in the hard-earned consensus found the hard way, buy Acular without prescription, in real scientific assessments.

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But Lomborg is not an economist. His credentials for preaching the gospel of Cost-Benefit Analysis, order Acular over the counter. Statistics and political science. I'm not an economist either but have been told that geography is a hunting license, buy cheap Acular, and have learned enough economics to know that CBA is too easily and often misused - it only works when there is agreement about the policy objective, Where can i order Acular without prescription, i.e., in the absence of value conflicts. I have nothing against the method per se, Acular trusted pharmacy reviews, but roll my eyes when it is suggested that CBA, Buying Acular online over the counter, or The Market, should determine policy objectives (which is what Lomborg advocates - even though he denies this and says he is just offering a price list so the public can decide). When there are conflicting values and interests, rx free Acular, to say, Buy cheap Acular no rx, for example, that Kyoto is too costly, you have to be more specific, order Acular no prescription, i.e., Buy Acular no prescription, to who. Order Acular over the counter, Lomborg doesn't say - again, he just picks a middle figure from "main academic" macro-economic models, without questioning their assumptions. Perhaps those decreasing numbers of people who stand to gain from the status quo, value cheap labor, real brand Acular online, and believe this will somehow automatically create greater future prosperity?

Depending on what policies are adopted to reduce emissions and how it is done, Online buying Acular hcl, the economy could, perhaps, be transformed into one that actually works by actually meeting human needs, buy Acular from canada, which would make everyone better off. I may be delusional and am admittedly speculating a bit about the possibility of achieving that. But Goodstein cites a review by Robert Repetto, which concluded that energy efficiency could spur economic growth. To get beyond the cherry picking, we need to get more specific and start comparing actual scenarios that provide a more honest accounting for trade-offs between policy options, to find pathways from here to where we want to go, but will need some sort of consensus on where that is. That should also knock out the floor boards that sustain the wobbly frame on which Lomborg and Luntz are perched.

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